John Straw Gilby
John Straw Gilby was born April 1, 1850, in St.
John Parish, City of York, Micklegate, County Yorkshire, England and died
November 4, 1942,
in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Canada, at age 92. He
is the son
of John Gilby of Kirton, County
Lincolnshire, England, and Alisemon Elizabeth Straw of
the City of Lincoln, County Lincolnshire, England.
Elsie Reid Young was born March 13, 1852, in Berlin,
Canada West, and died in
1929 in Alberta, Canada, at about age 77. She is the daughter of William Young
(1827-1869, a Grocer) and Margaret McIntosh (1825-1897) of Berlin (now
John Straw Gilby
Elsie Reid Young
April 27, 1875, in Berlin, Ontario, Canada.
John Straw Gilby
Elsie Reid (Young) Gilby had five children:
The Elisamon Saga, provided by Andy Straw, as
a PDF file.
I recently found your website while
looking for information about an ancestor of mine, Alisemon Gibly (nee
My relationship to Alisemon is that she
was a first cousin of Thomas Straw (born 1828 in Lincoln, England) who was
my Great Grandfather and emigrated to Australia in 1853, the same year as
the Giblys emigrated to Canada.
Although I had previously found that
Alisemon Straw married John Gibly in York, I had very little information as
to what became of them after they arrived. I found your website very
interesting and have used the information about Alisemon in developing my
records of the Straw family.
My particular interest in Alisemon is
because of her uncommon name which with different spellings has been used in
many generations and the original Elisamon was a "fairy godmother" to my
Great Grandfather. This is explained in a story I have written in the
attached document (The Elisamon Saga). I have attached two different formats
of the same story
My reason for writing to you is to let
you know that I have a great deal of information about Alisemon's ancestors
in England which I could send to you if you are interested. Also I would be
very interested to know if in your family research you have come across any
information which may help in me finding more about why the name Elisamon or
Alsemon has been so popular in our history.
The Straws of Lincolnshire, provided by Andy Straw, as
a PDF file.
The Descendants of George Straw, provided by
Andy Straw, as a PDF file.
The Descendants of Walter Straw, provided by
Andy Straw, as a PDF file.
Thank you for your very prompt reply
to my my previous email.
Yes, you can include whatever parts
of my story you wish on your web site.
For your information I have attached
some more information providing more details of Alisemon's English
As all the names become confusing, in
the attached story I have included the date of birth in brackets after
the name to help in identifying who I am talking about. I have also
attached two descendant charts to help in keeping track of all the
To help in understanding where
Alisemon Gilby fits into the story the line of descendants from the
first Straw is as follows
Walter Straw (c1650) - Jane
Walter Straw (1679) - Mary
Walter Straw (1712) - Elizabeth
George Straw (1754) - Mary Walker
John Straw (1792) - Hannah Martin
Alisemon Straw (1816) - John Gilby
(Emigrated to Canada 1853)
My line of ancestors is the same as
far as George Straw (1754) then
Robert Straw (1786) - Sarah Martin
(Sarah and Hannah Martin were sisters marrying brothers Robert and John)
Thomas Straw (1828) - Emily
Osborn (Emigrated to Australia 1853)
Frederick Martin Straw (1858) -
Keith Blundell Straw (1894) -
Andrew James Straw (1933) - June Hill
As well as my particular interest in
Alisemon I am also interested in the Emily Straw who emigrated to Canada
with the Gilbys.
You will note that in Chapter 3 of my
story I record that an Emily Straw, then aged 14, was residing with
Robert Straw (1786) at the time of the 1841 Census. I think she was the
same Emily that emigrated with the Gilbys, but I can't work out which
family she came from.
Do you have any further information
about this Emily Straw. Did she eventually marry?
Ontario was known as: Upper Canada from
June 10, 1791, to February 10, 1841; Canada West from February 10, 1841, to July
1, 1867; and
Ontario after July 1, 1867.
John Straw Gilby was born April 1, 1850, in St. John Parish,
City of York, Micklegate, County Yorkshire, England.
The 1851 UK Census as of March 30, 1851,
shows John Gilby (age 36) born in Kirton, County Lincolnshire, England is a
Grocer Master employing one man and living at 6 New Bridge Street, St. John
Parish, City of York, Micklegate, County Yorkshire, England. Living with him is
his wife Elizaman Gilby (age 34) born in the City of Lincoln. Also living there
are their children, all born in York: Emily Gilby (age 6); James Gilby (age 5);
Emma Gilby (age 3); and John Straw Gilby (age 1). John's widowed father also
lives there: Jas. Gilby, Sen., (age 70) a Retired Farmer born in Willsby, County
Lincolnshire, England. The assistant grocer and two house servants also live
Elsie Reid Young was born March 13, 1852, in
Berlin, Canada West.
In 1855 John Gilby was still listed as
a Grocer at 6 New Bridge Street.
John Straw Gilby
were married April 27, 1875, in Berlin, Ontario, Canada.
The 1891 Canadian Census taken on May 11,
1891, shows John Gilby (age
41) born in England to English-born parents is a Rail Way Station Agent
living in Tilbury West, Essex North, Ontario, Canada. Living with him is
his wife, Elsie Reid Gilby (age 39) born Ontario, Canada, to Scottish-born
living there are his five children, all born in Ontario, Canada, to English and
Ontario, Canadian-born parents: John Reid Gilby (age 15); Marguerite Gilby (age
13); Agnes Gilby (age 11); Isabella. Gilby (age 4); and William Gilby (age
The 1901 Canadian Census taken on June 20, 1901, shows John S. Gilby (age
51) born April 1, 1850 in England and emigrating in 1853 is a Station Agent
living in Ekfrid Twp., Middlesex Co., Ontario, Canada. Living with him is his wife, Elsie R. Gilby (age 49) born March 13, 1852 in Ontario, Canada. Also
living there are his four unmarried children, all born in Ontario, Canada:
Margret Gilby (age 23) born March 20, 1878; Alisemon A. Gilby (age 20) born May
7, 1880; Elsie I. Gilby (age 14) born September 8, 1886; and Wm. J. Gilby (age
12) born September 2, 1888.
The 1911 Canadian Census taken on June 1, 1911, shows John S. Gilby (age
61) born April 1850 in England and emigrating in 1853 is Operator of the C. P.
R. Station and living in Yarmouth, Elgin East Dist., Ontario, Canada. Living with him is his wife, Elsie Gilby (age
59) born March 1852 in Ontario, Canada. Also
living there is his unmarried daughter: Elsie Gilby (age 24) born September 1886
in Ontario, Canada.
Elsie Reid (Young) Gilby died in 1929 in
Alberta, Canada at about age 77.
John Straw Gilby died November 4, 1942, in Rocky
Mountain House, Alberta, Canada, at age 92.
Drumheller, Alberta, Canada, Thursday, November 12, 1942
Father of W. J. Gilby Dies At
Rocky Mountain House
Well known in the Drumheller
district, John Straw Gilby died Wednesday, November 4, at the home of his
daughter, Mrs. M. Bradshaw, Rocky Mountain House, at the age of 92 years and
seven months. He was born in Yorkshire, England, coming to Oakville, Ont., with
his parents in 1853. At the age of 19 he joined the Grand Trunk Railway as an
operator and left the railway in 1875 to spend five years in North Dakota.
Returning to Canada, he joined the C. P. R. and was station agent for them at
various Ontario points. In 1910 he came west, and was agent at Kananaskis for
some time before retiring to Drumheller, where he lived until moviing to Rocky
Mountain House eight years ago to live with his daughter. Three children survive
- Mrs. Bradshaw and Mrs. E. I. Day, Rocky Mountain House, and W. J. Gilby,
Drumheller; four grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. The funeral was held
in Calgary, Friday.
Elsie Reid (Young) Gilby
Elsie Reid (Young) Gilby with children Isabel and William,
William Young (1827-1869)
Margaret McIntosh (1825-1897)
in St. John Parish, City of York, Micklegate, County Yorkshire, England; Died
Unknown. Married January 1, 1884 in Glen Williams, Halton Co., Ontario,
Canada to Maria Jane Forster: Born in Toronto, Canada;
From Rita Meistrell - copy of an e-mail sent to the UOVGEN List on August 6,
Did some of your relatives disappear into western US or Canada? If not,
skip this e-mail.
Recently, I had the opportunity to do some research in the
ND/MN area to
which my Canadian ancestors moved. I got some hints as to why so many of
them moved west. Many of the Irish-Canadians who
settled in Canada were disappointed
with their land in Ontario. The availability of land in western Canada and
the conflicts with their Scot neighbors acted as the impetus for them to
move. Most originally hoped of find more fertile land in western Canada.
that time it was easier for west bound travelers in Canada going from Ontario
to Manitoba to take a train to St. Paul and then to proceed on toward either
Fargo, ND or Fishers Landing, MN. From there they went northward by boat.
On the way up the Red River to Manitoba in 1874, one of the first emigrants ,
James E. Sullivan, stopped in Nashville, which would later become East Grand
Forks, Minnesota. While there, Jim decided to take a short trip up the Red
Lake River. Near the original East Grand Forks city limits, he was
captivated by a parcel of land overlooking the river in Huntsville Township.
However, Jim continued on with his journey to Manitoba. Once there, he was
unable to find any land that was more suitable to the family's needs than the
parcel near Nashville. So on his return trip to Fargo, Jim again stopped
Nashville and made a verbal agreement with the owner for the purchase of land
in Section One of Rhinehart Township, Polk County, Minnesota. Jim returned
to Renfrew County and expounded upon the many assets of the area. He and
family, along with many others started making their move. Many families
to the Grand Forks area in 1878 and 1879. In addition, James J. Hill,
builder of the Great Northern Railroad, recruited farmers to emigrate from
Ontario and settle the Red River Valley. Most of the Irish-Canadian
gathered near their neighbors in Manvel, ND and Grand Forks, ND/ East Grand
Forks, MN. Most people at the time said they were going to Grand Forks,
It was the largest town in the area. However, most of the Irish Canadians
moved across the river to East Grand Forks (EGF), MN, a very small town.
Apparently, when ND became a state in 1889, it was a "dry" state--prohibited
alcohol. Although most of the Irish-Canadians had already started their
farms on the MN side, the prohibition created booming business on the EGF
side. According to one article in April of 1891, there were applications
4 more saloons ( 27 to date in a short few blocks) with more to be heard
from. In addition, the local papers were trying to keep their residents
going up to Manitoba. Below is from an article in the Grand Forks Herald
5/21/1891 (remember these are their words, not mine):"It was a sorry lot of human beings that arrived here yesterday from
Winnipeg. They constitute the advance guard of the main body of deluded
Dakotans who went to Manitoba in search of land flowing with milk and honey.
They find instead, a barren waste of desert sand, either destitute of all
vegetation or grown up with sage brush, and an inhospitable climate where
vegetable growth is impossible. These misguided unfortunates were warmly
welcomed here and provided with necessary relief for their wants and will be
given employment. They tell sad tales of destitution and suffering."
Below are some familiar names that I came across while doing my research.
Families from Canada that I saw in the following cemeteries:
Calvary Cemetery in Grand Forks, ND-
HARVEY, SULLIVAN, RACINE, POWERS, O'LEARY, McCOY,ENRIGHT, DRISCOLL, McGUIRE,
MURPHY, FOLEY, RYAN, LAVELLE, NEVILLE, HANRAHAN, MCILRAITH, CONNELLY, MORIN,
O'NEIL, CARROLL, BUSHAW, BUSHEE
St. Timothy Cemetery, Ferry Twp, Grand Forks Co.-
BUSHAW, O'NEIL,CONNELLY, QUINN, HARVEY, MURPHY, McGUIRE, NAGLE, FERRY, DOYLE
Nisbet Cemetery, Huntsville, MN -
HANNAH, LEE, McDONALD, McKINNON, NISBET, RUTHERFORD, BRYSON, COULTER,
CHALMERS, FEASE,GILMOUR, FLEMING, LOVE, McVEETY, MORRISON, NEVILLE, DRISCOLL,
I found bio's on the following names that said they were from Ontario in "The
Meeting of the Reds, East Grand Forks, MN 1887-1987 Centennial Book",
James CUMMING , Carleton Co.
Michael and Bridget GORMAN, Smith Falls, Ont
John LOVE's wife Ann Marie ARMSTRONG
James McDONALD, Frontenac Co.
NAGLE, O'NEIL - Almonte, Ontario (mentions DOYLE family went to Livermore
Iowa before moving to Manvel, ND)
James NISBIT, No. Sherbrook, s/o Wm and Christena
John O'NEIL & Mary O'DRISCOLL, Ramsay Twp, d/o Denis & Johanna (White),
John O'LEARY, Almonte, Ontario (includes MURPHY from Packenham)
From "Half century of Recollections", a series of 111 articles originally
published in the Grand Forks Herald 1935-1936 and found at the Univ. of ND,
the following names were from Canada:
Archie O'CONNOR - b. Renfrew 4/8/1875
WV O'CONNOR - b. Lanark, Ont.
John N. BATHGATE - b. Guelph,Ontario 12/26/1876
James A DINNIE - Hoosie, Ontario 2/7/1863
Frank GILBY - Oakville, Ont. 3/10/1858
Tom C. GRIFFITH - Welland, Ont 4/3/1870
Wallace A HUFF, Belleville, Ont. 11/6/1853
George HYSLOP, Ont. 12/13/1849
JW LOWE, Ontario 9/8/1857
JH McNICOL, s/o Duncan - Renfrew, Ont. 1877
O"KEEFE - Linsay, Ont
Joseph R POUPORE - Pontiac Co., Que 2/8/1860
JJ QUIGLEY - s/o Hugh, Perth, Ont 2/21/1876
George STEAD - Lanark Co.
CC Stewart, s/o George - 2/2/1870 Easton, Ont
Alec THOMSON - Ontario
From the North Dakota 1930 WPA Pioneer Biographies Project:
Descendants of Dennis Sullivan
1 Dennis Sullivan b: in County Cork, Ireland
d: 1916 in
Grand Forks, ND
. +Bridget ? b: in Belenack, Ireland
d: 1915 in Grand
.. 2 Patrick Sullivan b: 1855
.. 2 Jerry Sullivan b: October 08, 1867 in Huntley Twp,
...... +Florence Hubert
.. 2 John Sullivan
.. 2 Martin Sullivan
.. 2 Dan Sullivan
.. 2 George Sullivan
.. 2 William Sullivan
.. 2 Katherine Sullivan
...... +? Ryan
.. 2 Elizabeth Sullivan
...... +? Chaplin
.. 2 Ann Sullivan
...... +? Murphy
.. 2 Jessie Sullivan b: 1885
I have much more on some of these families- Enrights, Sullivans, Driscolls,
I hope this helps some researchers in Ontario find where some of their
families disappeared to.